Episode 54 of the Living Life Well Show: Regenerative Ranching with Canyon Valley Provisions
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Speaker: [00:00:00] Welcome to the Living Life. Well show the intersection of God's word, today's science and healthy living with common sense application, all based on the truth of the word of God. I'm your host, Dr. Jon Skelton. Now let's get straight to the truth.
Audio Only - All Participants: All right. Well, welcome back to the Living Life we show today. I'm really excited to have the Ham family here. They are the owners and, providers of Canyon Valley Provisions.
The, what is, in my opinion, the best beef that, that you can get. And it is really local to here in, in West Texas. So, uh, Jessica and Austin welcome, uh, to the Living Life Wealth Show. Hi. Thanks for having us. Thank you for having us. Yeah, so I, I'm really excited about this episode because I think, you know, we're hearing [00:01:00] so much, in the media and just in general, there's kind of a groundswell and I think a, a lot of it is starting because of people like you, , right out here in West Texas and, you know, choosing to do things, uh, differently.
Really choosing to kind of go to maybe even. Old world, regenerative farming and ranching. So what I'd like you to do is just kind of tell us about, about you two, about, you know, how, uh, all this has, has come about your history and, and those things, if you don't mind.
Sure. Well, we both come from ranching families. Um, that grew up not far from here. I grew up outside of Teka. Austin grew up right here in Post most of his life. And so, um, we grew up ranching and I didn't know that this would be part of my adult life and my future, but I'm so glad that it is and it's something that we both enjoy and that we love doing with our family and with our kids.
And, um, we wouldn't have it any other way. So I. First of all, thank you to everybody that supports our business. [00:02:00] This is our family business, and it's us and our three kids doing this. And, uh, it really is something that we love and we're passionate about. But, um, as far as the standards and the process that we go through for our products and our beef, we just do it mostly because we want the best for our family and we wanna be able to offer that for everybody else as well.
Um, as far as. My family's history with regenerative ag. Uh, my granddad grew up, uh, at a, our other ranch. It's down around Big Lake and they, we raised sheep and cattle down there. And this place here in post is where my grandmother, uh, grew up and back in the late 1980s. A guy named Alan Savory came over to the US and started teaching what he called holistic management.
And, um, that caught my granddad's eye. He saw that they weren't seeing the pasture in the range land improving, that [00:03:00] it was getting worse and worse year over year. And so they started putting, implementing the practices of holistic management, savory and um. Keeping the animals all in one herd, longer recovery periods, shorter grace periods, and, uh, more in animal impact.
And so that's been what I've grown up with. We've tweaked that, tried lots of different things throughout my life and my, all the things that my grand was doing, and, um, seen a lot of positive impact on rangeland from that. Um, we've seen that we have to run a. Slightly different type of animal as far as, um, the genetics.
Uh, they're not, not gonna be geared towards the, the giant big bodied cow that will do well in a feed yard and eat a lot of their feed, which is what they want. They have to be a thriftier type animal that's got a big belly that can graze a lot of grass and make it on [00:04:00] what's out there. Yeah. Yeah. Well, and that's, that's kind of what I wanted you guys to talk about because I mean, golly, there's so much confusion.
Uh, you know, when you go to the grocery store, right? Says, you know, no antibiotics says grass fed, or grass finished, or pasture raised. , generally, , when I'm doing recommendations, I'll say, you know, pasture raise. Grass fed, grass finish. But I think you guys take that to even another level.
So can you kind of describe to me a little bit about how you see those kind of markers on, you know, uh, store shelves and what it is that you guys do that, that separates you from, from those kind of, , little designations, uh, that they'll put on the packaging?
So, um, that's one of the biggest reasons why we love knowing our customers and we recommend people get to know their [00:05:00] producers and know who it is that's raising your food for your family.
Yeah, it's, it's not, um, there's no, uh, USDA government classification for grass fed beef. So, um, there are some third parties certifications you can get. Mm-hmm. But, um, what we've chosen to do, and, um, this wasn't my own idea, there's a guy named Gabe Brown that's in, uh, North Dakota or South Dakota that, um.
What he called it was self certified. So we want our customers to come out here and we're glad to show you exactly what we're doing with these animals. Um, we could get organic and all those kind of certifications and have to pay all those organizations a whole lot of money, right? We choose to just show people what we're doing and, um, build that trust with them, uh, in our practices.
So grass fed, just to explain some of those terms that you can see on beef products, specifically grass fed just means that the [00:06:00] cow ate grass at some point in its life, and that should be every single cow. Right. Um, most cattle start off in the pasture and most calves are born in the pasture and have some time on pasture before they're taken to a feedlot.
So every cow is pretty well considered grass fed, and again, it's no longer managed by the USDA, so there's really nobody checking to make sure that's true. Anybody that's selling beef can put grass fed on there. Um, grass finished means that that animal was never given grains. In their life. So, um, most, most feed feedlots are people that are finishing out cows, whether it be in a pasture or in a pen somewhere.
They're feeding them either grains, you know, corn, wheat, soy, or dried distillers grains, which may be listed as DDG on there. And as we know, most of that, all of that is very inflammatory. And when it causes inflammation in the animals and we eat it, it causes inflammation in our bodies. And so, um. So we try to [00:07:00] avoid that.
But that label on that beef being grass fed and grass finished means that the cow only had grass or you know, native plants. It's not just one species, not one grass, um, their entire life. And so because of that, the animals, um, inflammation is less, their Omega-3 to omega six ratio is proper and in the way that God created it to be, which therefore gives us a healthier product to consume.
Um, and then pasture raised again means that the ca animal was out on pasture, but that doesn't mean that it wasn't fed something else. While in the pasture, some ranchers drive around with a feed truck and click out cubes or put out different, um, minerals and, um, you know, not necessarily minerals, but other, um, feed, feed edited, um, in order to add to the's diet so it can still be pasture raised and get.
So you have to really know what it is that your [00:08:00] producer is doing. Uh, we choose to not supplement with any feed. We don't give any grain. We don't give any distiller grain. We don't give corn, soy, we don't do any of that. Our cattle are on the pasture right up until time. We, for us to gather 'em in, to take 'em to the processor.
Um, and because of the rotational grazing, we plan out, depending on how much rain we've had, which allows us to make sure that there's feed in front of 'em all the time so that we don't find ourselves needing to supplement that diet. So tell me a little bit about that rotational, uh, grazing that you guys do, because I think that is.
Tremendous aspect, right? Because that is how, you know, you've just described healing the land, right? I mean, it, it, you know, we have so many people in the ag industry out here, and it's the same thing over and over and over. Uh, no coverage on the ground. The, the soil is always tilled up. Um, just. [00:09:00] Bare naked, basically.
Uh, and there is no chance for recovery. And, you know, whatever it is that's grown out there is just leaching out, just like you know. Putting a ton of cattle or, or swine, whatever the case may be, into a small area, and then putting out a bunch of feed for 'em, uh, you know, just destroys the land. And also, uh, obviously the animal's nutrition.
So, so tell, tell me a little bit more about that, about, about what you guys specifically do with regards to that rotational grazing and, and just educate us a little bit on that. Sure. Um, just a matter of, of, uh, timing and animal impact. So, uh, you know, a lot of what people are seeing on videos, on Facebook or whatever, in regenerative grazing, you'll see a whole bunch of cattle on a half an acre or, but a lot of times that's gonna be in Missouri or in, but these, these western [00:10:00] landscapes, um, brush it's rough.
It can be a little more challenging to, uh. Uh, those step in fence posts just don't always step right to the ground and everything. So we have to either clear the brush out of our way, which we've done to create lanes to put up this portable fencing, and you can even do it on a larger areas of land by moving the cattle around moving, we do, the only thing that the cattle get extra is a mineral supplement.
So we have a, a mineral feeder trailer that. We can move around all over the place, and that's gonna draw the cattle to a different part of the pasture while they're in there. Um, twice, I'm kind of jumping around here, but twice a year we go out and evaluate the pastures for the growing and the non-growing season and basically step off what's gonna feed, uh, cow for a day.
And that gives us a rough estimate called animal days per acre. And the plan has to be pretty fluid from what you're seeing on the ground and, and moving around by, by bunching the. Big [00:11:00] group, you're getting several, you're concentrating happens, and then, uh, that bare ground that you see out there, um, in the dead soil, that the, the pore spaces in that soil have collapsed since the microbes have died in that soil, microbes produce something called glomulin, which is a.
Uh, biological glue that holds pore spaces in the soil that allows water to infiltrate, um, if, and, and, and all that microbial life. Once, say you've got some bare soil and, uh, extremely hot day like we get in August, it can get hot enough in that ground to kill all the microbes. So you've got dead soil, the pore spaces, it rains.
Soil is capped. The water just runs off. It does not infiltrate at all. So what we're doing by having a bunch of animals together is they've got that sharp hoof and they [00:12:00] break up that soil capping while they're there. Allow for new recruitment of grass seedlings or whatever. Um, uh, Forbes, legumes, or whatever you might have growing out in the pasture.
They till up the soil basically with their hooves. They, and, and under grazing can be just as damaging as overgrazing. Those grass plants, if they're not touched, will get gray and oxidated and die by not being grazed. So there are when, when that cow wrapped their around the grass and she, it.
And that feeds the root growth that's gonna happen. It feeds those microbes to grow longer, better, stronger roots. If the cow, when that new sprout comes up on that grass plant, if she's still there, the first thing she's gonna do is go back to that [00:13:00] tender shoot of grass and bite it off. That damages the root system because.
So that's where the overgrazing happens year after year. They're gonna keep going back and those grass plants get weaker. You start to see the landscape to grade. .
Okay. So, so tell me about, you know. Landscape of West Texas versus like landscape of central Texas, uh, density of animals on a, on an acre, uh, in West Texas versus density of animals on maybe an, uh, an acre in central Texas.
Are there, are there differences there? Uh, I would assume with that, are there, uh, differences that you're gonna. Get in the taste of beef, uh, that somebody does things exactly the same way as you do in central Texas, uh, as opposed to out here in West [00:14:00] Texas. I, I think the taste could definitely be different.
Um, but with well-managed range land, um, I think it's still gonna be a good taste. That's something we've kind of lost in our food, is the taste of a region. And, um, everything's just the same everywhere. Everything tastes the same. So I, I mean, they're gonna be grazing different, different plants, different places, but they'll, I think having the variety in there in their diet, they're not just eating grass and we don't want 'em out on a wheat field eating a monoculture.
It's. It's not very good beef when you do the, they're, they're eating grass, they're eating Forbes, they're eating legumes. They're all kinds of woody plants. I mean, you, they'll eat sage, all kinds of different things. And they're, they're picking up different nutrients and minerals because they're eating all that.
Um, so as far as the density of the animals on an on an acre, that's really just comes down to a matter of time [00:15:00] here. You might have to, if you just take per, we, we don't typically get down to having cattle on one acre. We're not quite that right here. Um, but whatever the acreage is, you might be on it for less time here because the, there may be more feed in a given area in central Texas or wherever.
So it really just comes down to a matter of how long they stay. And so the, the time, the grazing period would probably be shorter here, and the recovery period would need to typically be longer depending on rainfall and, uh, weather conditions. So our recovery periods, sorry to interrupt, you are typically five to six months after Oh wow.
It was razed before we came. Okay. So, so they razed typically for how long In one area here. It's, it's different. All it, it's constantly changing. We have all kinds of different [00:16:00] paddock sizes, so if they're in, you know, 600 acres, they might be there for three to four days, maybe a little longer, maybe a little less time.
And then we have some areas that are 2,500 acres and that's where we're gonna, you know, use that mineral feeder or some, or get out their horseback and move them to a different, uh, portion of the pasture. And then there's some periods of time, like when, when they're dropping calves, when we'll put 'em in those bigger areas and we'll try to leave 'em alone for a little longer.
They need to be able to have their calves and, and not be so bunched up and asked to, to work quite as hard during certain periods of the year. Okay, so a lot of active, active management is what I'm hearing from you. A lot of, uh, this is plan A, but I gotta have all the way to plan D or E at least here, uh, depending upon, you know, what the weather does, [00:17:00] uh, and you know, everything else that, that.
Can happen out here in West Texas or anywhere for, for that fact. And so I know a lot of people really aren't doing that. Um, it do you see that as an issue even within the quote regenerative, , community? , do you think that people that call themselves regenerative are actually taking the time? To do this really active, intense management that, that you guys are, are obviously, uh, doing on a daily, weekly basis.
I, I think a lot of them are. Um, and, and there's some people that are doing it even more, a lot more intense than we are. They're moving them three or four or five times a day. Um, we're, we're typically not quite that intensive here. Um. There's a whole lot of different ways to skin the cat. I mean, on some of these bigger ranches that are starting to do [00:18:00] some of these regenerative practices, you know, they may have a pasture that's very rough, very rugged country, and it's 4,000 acres, 6,000 acres.
So they're gonna be in that area quite a bit longer, but they're starting to maybe move around different sections of the ranch. So. There's, there's a whole lot of ways of doing it and, um, and benefiting the land, but the main thing is just not having cattle there year round in the same spot. That's when you're gonna start to see a change.
Um, everybody's situations are different. Um, water can be a big issue when you get. 500 cows that drink 30, 40 gallons a day, 40 gallons when it's really hot. That is a big demand on water. Um, that's a big demand on a, like a surface dirt tank. They can foul up a watering hole pretty quick. So, um, having groundwater, some people don't have [00:19:00] it.
So there's a lot of different issues that people have to deal with. So the management. Is is dictated by that in a lot of ways, but everybody can do it in a way where it's, it's moving forward in a positive direction. I think because of social media maybe, and because of RFK and there's a lot of steam building around this, and it's really exciting to see not only as consumers who are looking for a product that comes from producers who are not giving grains and who are regenerating the land and focusing on the soil, but also other producers are.
Looking to improve their management practices as well. We get, people call us all the time asking for information or references, resources, whatever, to see like, okay, what do I do? How do I start? And you know, and that's really encouraging to see that people are wanting to do that. Obviously we think it's important to take care of our soil and our land, so we do that.
Um, but it's really, [00:20:00] you know. We only have so much land under our management. And so it's really great when we can see other people that are doing the same thing because it really matters when we're all sharing the same water table, we're all tapping into the same resources. And, um, we want, we want the best for not just the land that we own and lease, but also the land that's all around us, you know?
And so it's really exciting to see that it is picking up some momentum, but it is becoming more, um. Popular. You know, regenerative is such a buzzword right now. Um, and it was something that nobody had heard about 10 years ago. And so it is really exciting to see, just like in our health with our physical bodies, you know, there are so many people waking up to the importance of what goes into our bodies and what goes into our foods, you know, our animals and all of that.
And so it's just really exciting. Um, to see all of this kind of picking up and people realizing the importance of all of that and being able to support it when they buy product products from ranchers and farmers that are doing [00:21:00] the, those things. Yeah, absolutely. And you know, the, the thing that, um.
Strikes me so much about this is, is I always think, you know, what's old is new again. Right? And so, you know, these are biblical practices. I mean, that, that, that God entrenched, uh, in us from the Old Testament, from, you know, uh, Leviticus, you know. Pawn about rotating the land, letting the land rest and heal, , how you should treat your animals, and, just really, you guys are, are just living that out.
So. So I know that your kids, uh, work with you there a little bit. Tell me about kind of what they do, on, on the land and how you've seen this impact them, , and how they approach life, maybe even. Well, they don't know any different, so this is really amazing that we've been able to be out here with them since the time they were born.
But, um, they're with us all the time. We homeschool our [00:22:00] kids. Um, we have three kids. They're nine, seven, and four. And so they're still very young. Um, they all love to be horseback and some more than others, but yeah, they, they love going with us. They love being part of it. They love the cowboys that come and help us and, you know, doing all of that.
And they. Uh, really take pride in what we're doing and it's really great to see them, especially when we have like a field day or, um, an event where we open to the public, um, we'll hear our kids talking about soil health and microbes and, um, plant diversity and different things. And it's so neat to just hear them spout things off because it's part of our daily vocabulary, part of our life.
You know, a lot of times our science lesson is not in a classroom. It's out when we're digging up. A sample in the pasture or identifying plants to see what this plant might be and what the nutrient profile is of that plant or whatever it is, you know, so they're with us, um, in the planting stages. They help us move the cattle and work the [00:23:00] cattle.
Um, and then they also help all the way from unloading boxes when we pick up loads from the butcher hauling cattle to the butcher, and then. They really do a lot with me in the, um, fulfillment stage of our business and helping pack orders. A lot of their math skills are really getting tested while they have to pack orders.
And I give them a list of, okay, this box needs 24 of these, 12 of these, seven of these. And so they're really, um, involved from, from every aspect of the business. And some days they are happier about it than others. Yeah. Um, but they take a lot of ownership in it and a lot of pride in it. So it's.
Yeah, and they, and they, we've done a, you know, been very intentional about explaining to them why we do things the way we do and why we're different than. Maybe others or, um, but we always make it a point, not just with our kids, but I wanna make it a point here too, that, um, we're not better or worse [00:24:00] necessarily because, um, ranchers are good people and people in the ag industry are great people, and we're all doing it because we love it and because we feel called to do that.
And the media makes such a big fuss about. Cattle being bad or ranchers being awful, or whatever that is. And I've never met a cattle rancher. One, whether he feeds tons of grain or not, that doesn't love his job because of what he's doing. And, um, it's such, such a great group of people and there's no better people.
I wanna raise my kids around then the cowboys and cowgirls in this, you know, this culture and they love each other. They love God, they love. And we're all just doing the best we can to take care of it. How we see fit and how we feel called to do that. Yeah, and I think we're, I, I like that you brought that up.
We're starting to see a positive change. I'm, I, I had a conversation the other day with the guy that I would've never thought [00:25:00] would, would get on the regenerative side of this. Good, good land steward, good rancher, good manager. Starting to talk about being concerned about mRNA. Our cattle vaccines, um, people are starting to wake up, but I do see a lot of demonization of the rancher and there's a few bad actors out there.
There is in everything, but, um, most of 'em, they love their animals. They're doing the best they can and starting to work our way, I think with seeing some positive change out of this system. That's been created that they're kind of in and, and more people are starting to pick their head up and realize that we don't have to keep doing it this way and we don't have to be locked into only sending cattle to the feed yard or only doing it this one way and it's, it's neat to see.
Talking about farmers and ranchers and how they're vilified and, you know, you have all these [00:26:00] series on like Netflix or you know, prime and, and just really kind of talking about the industry in general and really, you know.
I think it's a symptom of society. I, I don't think any grower is growing something with the intention, uh, to provide a bad product. Right. I think literally every single person, I don't care who they are, is growing with the intention to provide health and happiness for people. I think it's just that.
We're in this, uh, society of, of under kind of Pharaoh rule and law and, and, uh, thinking that production, production production is the only thing there is. We think that we're providing a good quality product, but mainly it's because we don't understand why God [00:27:00] told us what he told us about how to produce.
And so do you guys see that? Are you seeing it more from, . People waking up, maybe even from a, a biblical side of it, or are you seeing it just strictly from coming from, , the word regenerative? , have you seen that connection there at all in the people that you're, you're talking with that are coming around to, to this idea?
Yeah. Um, we, we've had a few that are actually, um, coming at it from a biblical point of view, and some of the time it's not so much. The laws and how to raise cattle that their, um, convictions are coming from, but in stewarding their temple. And I have had several customers talk to me about that and how they're realizing that what goes into our bodies matter and that we do have a responsibility and an, um, duty to steward wealth.
And [00:28:00] so, um, a lot of our customers come from that perspective in that, um, they're realizing that, oh. Not all beef is the same, or, um, spraying certain pesticides and herbicides and all these things do have an effect on our health and our bodies. And, um, so I see a lot of that side coming through. And then a lot of just, I don't, I don't hear the biblical side necessarily, but a lot of people just wanting better health, better overall health, and they're willing to, and realizing that it may be more of an investment.
To purchase a quarter cow, half a cow, to fill your freezer with this type of product, then to go buy meat from Walmart or whatever for maybe less per pound. Um, but the health benefits outweigh. And, and so we're seeing a lot of people that have said, you know, since we've started buying beef in bulk, we're spending a little bit more on beef, but we're saving a lot more on our health costs and our, um, we [00:29:00] snack less.
And, you know, they're saving in other areas and so it's worth it for them to make that switch. And so I do see a lot of that, which is really fun. Yeah. Yeah. So you guys, um, you know, sell at a few places here locally in Lubbock, I know. Um, and then, you know, you have different, , things that you sell, typical ground beef, , the primal, uh, ground beef, some steaks.
So tell me kind of a little bit. If somebody's interested in, in getting something from you, either here locally in Lubbock or throughout Texas, or if there's an option to do it throughout the us, uh, you know, for shipping, uh, how, how, you know, what, what kind of things do you offer and how could somebody explore that a little bit more?
Sure. So we are located just outside of Lubbock and so we deliver to Lubbock every week. So we take orders on our website, canyon valley provisions.com, and we deliver those into town once a week. Um, we also [00:30:00] work with Hub City Organics, which is on 82nd Street, near slide in Lubbock. And the Merck, which is next door to Veritas, downtown Lubbock, they both carry our products and have just about anything we offer is in stock there.
So you can buy one steak or one pound of ground beef or something like that. Um, which we always recommend people go try it before you, you know, wanna buy a large quantity or any of that. And then, um, a few times a year we offer bulk beef, which we do a lot more processing in the fall. That's kind of our main season for bulk beef.
And then we offer quarter beef, whole half beef and whole beef. And so that's when, um, you're getting, obviously you're gonna fill the freezer with a lot more beef. Um, and those opportunities are, um, typically in the fall and you'll save more per pound when you order. That way you can go in with a friend or a neighbor and split orders or do it however you want.
But, um, and we're very excited to be offering that bulk beef shipped. Across the us. [00:31:00] Um, we're primarily going to ship those across the state of Texas. We're, um, excited to be able to get those to the DFW area, the Austin area, San Antonio, Houston. Um, that's gonna be very easy for us to do here in the next week or two.
And we'll be launching that on our new website soon. But we also have the ability to ship small and large orders across the US so that is an option for people anywhere. Okay, so tell me about the ground beef versus primal blend, because a lot of people may not be kind of familiar with that. Tell us, uh, what the difference is and why have the two offerings.
Sure. So our ground beef is just regular ground beef. It comes from, um, most of the cow is involved in that and all of our ground beef is from one animal at a time. So, um. That's just our regular ground beef. We also offer a lean beef, which is more of a 90 to 10 ratio with the fat. And then our primal is 90% [00:32:00] ground beef with 10% organs added in.
And we add in beef, kidney, beef, heart and beef liver because those have such incredible nutrients in those, um, organ meats. Um, ancestrally. The organ meats went first. They went to the pregnant women and the small children because the nutrients were so intense, so dense in that amount of meat. And so, um, a lot of what we create.
For the public is something that, um, we want for ourselves at home and then we just offer it to the public. I am not one to cook liver or heart or kidney, and I know they're so good for us and I've tried 'em and I can't do it, and I won't make my kids eat it. So, um, this was a way that we could incorporate those nutrient dense foods into our diets with ease.
I can thaw out one package of primal looks just like ground beef, and we make spaghetti tacos, enchiladas, chili, Frito pie, whatever it is, and know that we're getting that. Extra dose of vitamins and minerals from the [00:33:00] kidney, heart, and liver without having to actually cook kidney, heart, and liver. So that's the primal blend and it's only a 10% amount in there.
Um, so it's really not strong in flavor or smell at all. Um, especially in those dishes like I listed where you're gonna have a lot of other seasonings and sauces on top. Um, so that's some one way that we get a lot of vitamin A and those other nutrients in our. Diets is through that primal blend without having to, you should try heart though.
It's really, really good. She doesn't agree with me, but, and brow some heart, it's good. Well, I haven't seen the heart at Hope City. That's where I typically go to buy, but maybe they do have it. I don't know. So I'll take some for you this week when I go and let you try it. Yeah, it's not my favorite. It's a, it's not my favorite, but it's not, it's not bad.
It's just not something I'm gonna put on the menu very regularly or go after. So, um, that's something I, I tend to skip, but primal in the, you. [00:34:00] Tell any difference in spaghetti or anything like that? It's, it's, no, you, you can't, we, we do it with tacos and we make, uh, spaghetti and meatballs with it. And so, and it, it's my favorite because I know that, you know, I'm getting that increase nutrient value and able to do that, you know, even over with the regular ground beef, which is already more nutritious than what you're gonna get, you know, from off the rack at, at any kind of grocery store.
Or big box store, uh, anything like that. And then you add the primal and man, that is just, it's so good. So we have a lot of people that get their whole, um, when they order a whole beef, they'll get as much primal out of it as they can. Um, and one another reason that we love doing that is it honors the whole animal.
We're using the whole animal to do that. We're not wasting anything. 'cause we do tend to sell all the cuts first, obviously. Mm-hmm. And we end up with a freezer of. Organs that aren't getting used and aren't getting sold. 'cause I'm not the only one that's not cooking [00:35:00] heart and liver, uh, regularly at home.
So by blending that and incorporating it into the primal blend, we're able to move that not waste product and um, also provide that nutrient value. Well, and it's really back to what you guys said is you're being a good steward, right? Because, you know, you're stewarding that animal fully, that that has given it its life to help our lives.
And, you know, you're allowing for that animal to, to give its full goodness to, to everybody that gets to consume it. So I, I just think it's absolutely. Uh, a great way to do it. I think that we don't, as a society now consume nearly enough organ meats for exactly the reasons that you said. Uh, and so this is a tremendous way to allow people to get back to that goodness that, that I believe God really intended us to, to get on a regular basis.
So, so I just think it's fabulous. Something else they get when they, when you buy it in bulk is the [00:36:00] bones of. Huge deal just for flavor and to make, to take those bones and make bone broth with them, the nutrients that you get from that. And then it just makes every soup, anything you cook with it 10 times better than it would've been.
Yeah, that's absolutely, it. It, that's interesting. Bone broth is, is one of the things that I absolute, absolutely recommend, for people when they are, uh, going through my program, , here at, at the, at the clinic. And that's one of the ways that we actually supplement nutrients, when somebody is, in a, plant-based diet because they need those nutrients that you're not just.
You're just not gonna get 'em all from plants. And so, uh, bone broth is a great, great way to get that. So now is that Absolutely. The, the bones you said you provide, do you all actually provide pre-made bone broth or just just the bone broth? We, we provide pre-made bone broth. Um, but when, if, if they choose to get it, um, people can [00:37:00] get just the bones from the, the animal that they purchased.
But yes, we, we have a lady in Lubbock that. Uh, makes our bone broth for us and does an excellent job. And so we, we do provide the bone broth. Uh, I think that should be it at Hub City. Yep. And everywhere else? Absolutely. Organics and the Merck, they all have chicken broth and beef fry. Okay. Alright. Well great.
The typical cow that's going to the feedlot they've gotten, and I, maybe I brought this up earlier. You can stop me if I did, but they're, they're, they're a really big boned, large animal. That's not the reason that so many ranchers are having to feed and produce and provide so much help to these animals is because what the, the meat packers want is more out of one animal.
So, you know, like Joel Southton says, bigger, better, faster, fatter. That's not the, you, you need a more moderate [00:38:00] animal to survive on, on the range that's out there on, on the feed that's provided. And so it's, it's difficult to get your typical cow to gain to, to really get fat out here on pasture. She has to be more, again, going back, like you said before, going back to the old ways.
You, you need a, what we call grass genetics in, in these animals. And that makes a huge difference. So, um, if there's anybody out there maybe listening that's thinking about, you know, they have a low acreage and they're gonna finish their own animal, it's important to make sure that you get the, and it's not Red Angus or Black Angus or Herford, it's within those breeds.
It's, it's. So if that animal's been bred for that purpose and can, can go out there and actually do it for you. So that could save somebody some, some disappointment in time. If you get a big box, car shaped cow, [00:39:00] um, she, she might not get fat enough for you out there. So that, that's an important piece of this as well.
So is that something that you guys are looking to, uh, start providing other people who are. Grow their own herd potentially. Um, we have done that some and uh, yes, we're, we are looking and continuing to always improve our genetics so that we can provide bulls and replacements for other people. Okay.
Awesome. Well, great. Well. Jessica Austin, I really appreciate you guys coming on. This has been absolutely fabulous. A great education for not only me, but our audience. And I think this is, uh, really gonna add to people's understanding of what it is they're really looking for and what it is they are and aren't getting when they, uh, go to the, go to the grocery store or even some of the health food stores for, for that fact.
So I really, [00:40:00] appreciate you guys coming on and, and just, uh, sharing your heart and what you guys do on a, on a everyday basis. So thank you. Thank you so much for having us. Yeah. We appreciate you having us and we're so excited to help however we can and just the opportunity to share. So thank you for having us on.
For sure. You, you're sure welcome. So thanks and, and God bless. Thank you so much. .
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